Epic Level Starter Set

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John Flipp
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Epic Level Starter Set

Hi everyone,

There's an epic starter set that got out last June, representing all the characters from the original starter set from ToD.
I was wondering if there was any plans on creating cards for them, or maybe epic version of the ones already existing.

Here is a link to the actual set I'm talking about:
http://www.minisgallery.com/dnd/dnd9.htm

Thanks!

John

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Ira
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I assume you know about these:
http://irafay.com/DDM/files/creatures/Icons%20of%20the%20Realm%20Starter%20Set.pdf

The epic minis probably shouldn't be used with that set, but it certainly seems like it could be fun to make epic versions for those minis.

John Flipp
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Yes that is the set I'm talking about.
Since its the first minis to come out from 5th edition, i see it fit to create epic cards or even new ones for these epic version minis. It may just be the reason that will make me buy this set.

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tried
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These are in design. Plastic Finn has been tapped as the team lead for the design part, and I will be one of the development team.

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Sirohk
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Does everyone know that this Epic Level Starter Set comes with a new 1/2 map? I don't have a picture yet, but will post one later.

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plastic finn
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The map is 15x21 squares, so a bit smaller than the DDM standard 17x22 ones. It's definitely nice for RPG and why not for a little skirmish if you decide start areas (not much of protection on the other side, though) and VA's.

But yes, another reason to buy the package. Smile

Moraturi
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I bought this months ago, but have never opened it (still in package Wink )
I did not know it had a map, now I am going to have to open it up to see the map and then get another one so I can still have one in package. Curse you Smile :)

skyscraper
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Ahh it's good to know some people are worse than me in collecting Smile

Say, James, would you consider posting a pic of the map, to quash my thirst for curiosity?

Thenameless
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I'm like that too. It hurts when it comes to things like the Colossal Red. Gotta have one to play, and one to stay sealed.

tried
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What do Epic level stats mean to you?

Do they mean creatures that stand alone with support? 150 to 350 points? Or does it mean creatures that fall in the 80-120 range (thus making a party of 5 for 500 possible) is better?

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skyscraper
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Good question.

I was under the impression that epic could mean either or both of

1) a stronger version of a same creature, notwithstanding point value
2) a creature statted for 500+ point play

Sirohk
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I like "epic" creatures to be designed for 500 point format. And to be higher level / stronger versions of their original stats (200 point versions) if the have them. If pushing me into a corner I'd say like 140 to 250 point cost. I would not rule out something a little higher if the creature is the anchor of the warband that is supported by others.

If we think storylines, epic should mean "epic"! Heroic versions of their younger selves. Able to take on legendary monsters and evils (or epic creatures).

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John Flipp
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I must say i like what as been done already as for a better version of a creature, like the High Cleric of Sune, Eladrin Silver Pyromancer, Aracnomancer, wich are between 80 to 115pts. Its playable in a 500 and a 200 points game for some.
There is also those like the Archmage, wich is a really strong epic version at 241pts.

Well IMO those epic heroes shouldn't be all at the same level, so having a bit of everything between 80 and 250pts would be nice. (I know there is only six heroes) Wink

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Also, if i stop thinking about what I want;

In my numerous miniatures trades I have met many people that are only collecting the Wizkids edition of minis.
After promoting the game and sending them some links, a few are interested to play it.

Well there is not much creatures going over 200 yet for players of that edition. Maybe strong epic version would be better, altough for some i just don't see it. Putting a 200pts Halfling in a team of weaklings is hard to imagine (not talking about you, Ulmo) Big smile

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Ira
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For epic, I agree with what's been posted, but I'd consider anything 80 and above to be relevant to epic play. I think it would be great to fill out the 100-150 range, since we still have very, very few creatures in that range compared to, say, 20-25.

skyscraper
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A quick comment about my personal preferences Smile

I really like 300 and 400 point play. I know this is not a format that is specifically supported by the Guild, but thought can be given nonetheless to the game being flexible enough to accommodate anything from 50 to 1000 points, even if some formats are more balanced then others. And, most units that are, say, below 200 points, and developped for 500 point play, can be considered for 300/400.

With that in mind, 100-150 point creatures are fun for 300-400 point play as a main piece. The Draegloth Abomination in a drow warband is a good example. And now, Ilmrith also I'm sure will make her way into many warbands in that point range.

Cheers!

Shinsek
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Generally speaking, when I think about an EPIC stat, my minds goes to miniatures worth 141+, just how it was in DDM OE.

Thenameless
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Would love to see a Halfling in the 200+ point range.

John Flipp
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So today i finally bought this starter pack. Its pretty nice! Definitely something to do with the map! Good alternative to the King's Road in my RP games.

Here's a link to the hole set and a preview of the map.

http://gamingtrend.com/feature/reviews/lets-get-the-party-started-dd-icons-of-the-realms-epic-level-minis-review/

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Laurian
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I prefer the point range from 80 - 120. So you would be able to form a 5 minis warband for Epic Arena and you could also use them in 200.

Sirohk
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Any update on the Epic Level Starter Set?

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Thenameless
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Sirohk,you're an awesome player with lots of experience. Send some ideas to Tried and Ira.

Darkones
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Interested in these as well Smile

plastic finn
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Personally, I cannot give you any information on the release date, as I do not exactly know where things stand right now. I can say the design, as well as development (at least up to a point), is done.

tried
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This will be out soon. Just need a bit of time with it.

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Nice! While I'm slowly but surely recovering from a nearly-a-month of excruciating back pain, it's good to hear things are rolling forward.

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