New Maps!

Some of you might remember a DDM Map Design contest from more than a year ago. I've been reluctant to post much about it because I wasn't entirely sure we'd ever actually get new maps. It's a long process to refine the maps, playtest, work with the artists, revise, work with printers, revise, get the maps printed, and eventually make them available for sale.

But, after more than a year, I'm very pleased to announce the winner of the DDM Map Contest: Alepulp's entry of Pillars of Heaven.

Tried will be attending Euros and I've asked him to bring two copies of the new map for Alepulp as a prize. Note that the final map isn't exactly as Alepulp submitted, but it was inspired by his entry and thus worthy of the name. Alepulp did the original design, I continued it, but this map would have had some glaring holes if it weren't for Tried's keen eye near the very end of the process, and I feel very grateful to him for that help. I'd also like to commend everyone who entered the contest. If we are fortunate to do this again (i.e. if we can break even on this project), we can certainly build from the other good ideas that were submitted and run another contest as well.

Though the primary design goal was to create a new small map, Pillars of Heaven can also be doubled with itself in two different ways (top-to-top or bottom-to-bottom). When doubled, players start in the far corners of the maps with victory areas on the opposite map. Each player has 2 victory areas and 1 start area, when doubled.

The physical map is double sided, with the second side being Pirate Cove, a map that I worked on with Tried's help, before the contest began. Again, the primary goal was to make a new small map, but Pirate Cove can also be doubled with itself to make a large map, with each player having 2 start areas (on their map) and 1 shared victory area. As a fun bonus, Pirate Cove can also be doubled with Monster Lair, an old small map. In that case, Player B has 1 start area, 1 victory area, and 1 shared victory area, while player Player A has 2 start areas, 1 victory area, and 1 shared victory area. See below for examples.

Prior to this release, there were only 8 tournament legal small maps but 30 large maps. Given that 5 of the 7 GenCon events are on small maps, I feel quite proud that we're increasing the possible selection of small maps, especially since some of the small maps are particularly hard to find now.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, the maps are available for sale now! To break even, we need to sell about 80 maps. I think that's possible, but time will tell. I hope that you all will consider supporting Tobias (who funded this whole project himself!) by buying some maps. You will find great use out of at least 2 copies, and I believe the price is excellent: $9.99 for 1 including shipping in the US, or $14.99 for 2. Outside the US, the price is higher due to shipping, but you can combine sales to help it make sense. I've found Tobias to be very reasonable regarding pricing, so please get in touch with him if you want to organize a larger international order.

Here's the link to get your copies!

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tbiaslorin's picture
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Having them in hand, I have to say both maps look great...Pillars of Heaven is a bright, beautiful map. And Pirate Cove reminds me of the War Drums map which has always been one of my favorites; doubled it should offer some great strategic options. It took a while, but at the end of the day DDM can only be better for having them!

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I would propose, at this time, to have the finals of GenCon and of the euros played on the doubled Pillars of Heaven.

Set up takes place in the farthest VAs from each other, btw, when twinned.

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Also, to avoid any confusion, I think it's very likely that Tried will be able to bring more than just 2 copies of the map to Euros (for additional prizes and possible sale).

For GenCon, Moraturi is bringing several a few copies for prizes and sale.

Thank you to Tobias for his generosity and support throughout this project!

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Cool stuff, thanks to all who participated in this project! I of course immediately ordered a 2-pack to support those who invested time and money into this. And, hum, you know, to get new maps Smile

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Cool maps. I just bought 6!

Koen's picture
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I'm definitely interested in getting two of each. Would be nice if Tried can bring my copies to the Euros.

I assume that there is no 'delivery by Tried' option in the payment process though, so what's the easiest way to do this?

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There is, if the maps get to me. North America is europe sized.
Ira and I live on opposite coasts, and he in the North, nearer to Canada, and I in the South, only a few dozen km from mexico.

I'm already bringing last years promos, etc. but willing to bring more.
/dgs

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I'm glad to send Tried as many maps as he thinks he may need (and then some!) to take with him...when are you leaving Tried?

So my thought is folks can buy a 'US Priced' map, let me know that it will be delivered via Tried, and I can keep track of who and how many he will need.

Thanks!

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Any maps to go must reach me by August 10th.

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Koen, note that each physical map is double sided, so if you want two copies of each map, you just need to order two copies!

I look forward to hearing feedback from players once you've had a chance to play with them!

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This is fantastic!!! Thanks so much to everyone involved and congrats to Peter and Ira for great additions to the DDM map-i-verse! I also like the fact that the material is thicker. Great idea to have the Pirate Cove also combine with Monster Lair. And while at it, I also want to commend the decision to have a river terrain oriented map, both half and full! It's been in the cards, if you know what I mean...
Smile

Ordered a few... even a bit TOO hastily, as it turned out. Hopefully we can work that "combined shipping" thing out with Tobias...

Again, I tip my hat.

Koen's picture
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Ok, I ordered my maps and changed my address line to 'Delivery by Tried'. I guess that's clear enough Wink

tbiaslorin's picture
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I see your order PF; once I get it all packaged up today, I'll refund the extra shipping!=)

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I also ordered two maps (Destination: Hanover, Germany) - if it is still possible, i would also prefer delivery via Tried Wink

The maps look great!

tbiaslorin's picture
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Will do, I just packaged yours up, but I will void the label and get you a refund for the extra shipping!

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Should I order maps via some link or buy direct from Tried at Nijmegen?

tbiaslorin's picture
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You can order via the link in Ira's post (it links to my page where you can buy them). I'm keeping track of who has purchased and am sending them to Tried to bring to Europe.

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Wow fast shipping! My maps came today! Thanks for the cool figure too!

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I won!!! Yeay...
It looks awesome - can't wait to get my hands on it myself!

The idea was based on Kung-fu Panda and the fights he has on bridges and stuff in China.

And seeing Tried again - AWESOME. Great news in all ways

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I just received my pair of maps today (perhaps a few days ago, I was away on vacation). They look great!

One suggestion for shipping, it would be good to pack them with cardboard in the envelope. The mailman folded my envelope in my mailbox, so the maps are folded. It's not a big deal, I'll lay them under heavy books to flatten them and I assume it will be OK.

Anyway, great job to all those who were implicated in this development! The end result is really worth it.

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Heya, I appreciate the feedback and I apologize for the way it came Skyscraper! I hoped they wouldn't do that as anything defined as an envelope is technically not supposed to be folded by the USPS.=) We have tons of cardboard scraps in the warehouse, any future orders I ship out I'll include those to stiffen the envelope and protect the maps.

Thanks!

(as an update, I think I figured out why I didn't do this in the first place! To maintain USPS Envelope First Class, the package has to be less than 1/4" thick. Over that and it becomes a parcel, which at least Internationally, can be more than 50% more expensive in shipping. In the US, up to about 8 maps is still First Class, so I can (and will!) add some extra protection) Thanks!

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I got mine (and friend's) today after customs clearance. Everything went smoothly and the well-packed maps were in great shape - thanks Tobias! Extra kudos for the communication and flexibility in this case.
Smile

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Thanks for your reply Tobias. It's those damned Canadian mailmen that did the rotten job Wink I'm kidding, it wasnt that bad, just folded into a tight "U" shape. There is no fold line. I'm hopeful, and fairly confident, that the maps can be flattened back to original shape.

Mostly, thanks for everything, most of all doing this.

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Got mine two days ago - all was perfect! The maps are excellent quality!

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I ordered mine to be delivered by tried - so hope I was not late.

tbiaslorin's picture
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Shouldn't be...I sent him 40 to take overseas with him, so he should have plenty for everyone who may need one!=)

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I just got my two-pack of maps in the mail, and it seems like I literally just ordered them!

They are perfect, great, outstanding work on the maps and the shipping!

One question, on the Pillars of Heaven map, are the purplish/cloud type squares between the bridges and land regular terrain? Can it be occupied normally? Or is it a pit or something else?

I assume it's normal terrain because there is no mention of it, but it would have been neat as a pit, too. Smile

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It's pit terrain. The aesthetic goal was mist rising up from far below, inspired by Kung Fu Panda 2 fight scene. Smile

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My friend and I received our new maps in the mail very quickly. They are beautiful maps.

Thanks to all for keeping this wonderful game going!

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I played a game on the Pirate Cove - monster lair combo yesterday. Wow, what a great map combination! The diversity of the terrain makes it very interesting, the art is just great on pirate cove (and on monster lair also) and at the same time the river terrain that runs through both maps links them and makes the combination look seemless. Very nice idea to have those two fit together. Kudos to the both of you guys!

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I've played on all the combinations now and wow... especially the Pirate Cove doubled seems to bring a whole new dimension to strategy. As a small map as well, with River help to those that thrive on/near it.

Great work!

A question: Is it the intention that the brook of Monster Lair turns (at least partially) to River terrain when paired with Pirate Cove? I'd like that, but there are some troublesome squares. Nothing that cannot be made clear with a Gazetteer page, though. No rush, just asking cause I'd like to use it as intended!

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Pairing one map with the other doesn't change the terrain.
The river terrain abruptly changes to river art when those two maps are paired.

plastic finn's picture
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Got it. Thanks tried!

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Wow! New maps! That's cool! If I can get a new group together to play again, I've got to get a set of these.